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Nikolyn McDonald

1 Month Ago

Title Tips

I would like a current discussion, similar to this key word discussion
https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2706043
on titles - tips for both search engine optimization and appeal. I know this has been discussed in the past, but I can't find a discussion which is both targeted and up-to-date.

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Jessica Jenney

1 Month Ago

Because of the FAA quirk where you should have unique titles for images, finding a unique title becomes quite a chore when one has thousands uploaded!

First I have to search for a title I am considering to see if there is already one with that title.

Next I try to have the subject in my titles as well as the name, if a landmark and maybe some alliteration to make it catchy.

I tend to forego poetic titles that have nothing to do with the image itself. I don't think that would be of help in the internal search if one is searching by title

 

Robert Yaeger

1 Month Ago

I would love to see an auto title check feature added to the image upload site. (eg. This title has already been used, please create another.)

 

Nikolyn McDonald

1 Month Ago

What about title length? I've seen super long titles where it appears the artist tries to pack in everything but the kitchen sink. I've read that, for search engine optimization, titles should be "descriptive" and "informative". At what if any point is this advice counter-productive?

 

Gill Billington

1 Month Ago

Titles are best kept to 20 characters although mine are often longer!

It is important for search engines to say what the subject of the image is.

 

Abbie Shores

1 Month Ago

Not a problem. I'll have that up in a day or two (a thread)

 

Nikolyn McDonald

1 Month Ago

Thanks so much, Abbie. I was actually hoping you'd say that :)

You can close this now if you want . . . or leave it open if you think someone might ask something you wanted to address in the thread and hadn't already thought of.

 

Dale Kincaid

1 Month Ago

It is said that the title should be reflected in key keywords and the description to add to SEO. Once you upload an image, review the AI keywords and description to see if title ideas stands out.

 

Richard Reeve

1 Month Ago

Personally, I find the whole thing about having a descriptive title, then a description that (literally) describes the image followed by keywords which further use the terms in the title and description so tedious.

I (almost always) try to give my images a title that means something to me and then give a fun description. I reserve the boring descriptive bits for the keywords.

Maybe I'm doing it all wrong, but I find the title and the description of the artwork to be part of the whole creative process.

Is it just me? Am I wrong?

 

Shelli Fitzpatrick

1 Month Ago

I always heard that the title should be SEO friendly and have the main keywords in it. I heard that having the keywords repeat in all three places (title-description-and tags) gives them more weight. I am not sure how accurate this information really is or if it is even still relevant considering how fast things on the internet change.

Adding: I like artsy titles but I don't think they help a search engine find my work so I have switched to the boring ones.

 

Bill Swartwout

1 Month Ago

Richard, you are not wrong in that what you said is part of the creative process. But for "selling" one's work, the title and description should contain information that the major search engines can use in directing a potential customer to your image(s).

 

Bradford Martin

1 Month Ago

First and foremost is a short descriptive title. I like a noun and action verbs. For example "Flamingos Flying." Or "Heron flying with stick". Sometimes an adjective: "Beautiful egret preening." Sometimes a bit poetic (creative), like "Angelic egret preening". And sometimes descriptive and poetic (creative) title with a hyphen: "Sunrise at the beach-The awakening."

If you are doing shows and like poetic titles then use a descriptive title first followed by a hyphen the poetic title you use at shows.

If I have a series on a subject then I number them to avoid repeating titles. And I sometimes number the same subject even if the titles don't exactly match. So Snowy egret I, Snowy egret II and Snowy egret preening III. This helps me avoid repeats.

Titles are as much for the external search the title search here. This is why they must be descriptive or literal, if you will. Don't call a while bird a white angel, because Google may thing it is an angel. (Not sure on this Goggle is getting pretty smart).

Absolutely drop main keywords in the title and the description or just assign your image to the dust bin of the internet. And of course use those words in the tag section.

It is important to think of a keyword as a word that matches what the searcher is looking for as well as a clue for the internet search engines. Keywords are not just something in the tag section, but they should be in there too, mostly for the site search.

And always do all the tagging and descriptions on upload. Remember that newness matters on this site and on external search engines. The clock starts ticking on upload. If you don't have time to do it then don't upload until you do.

Good luck and a rising tide floats all boats.

 

Deborah League

1 Month Ago

I second Roberts suggestion of an alert for reusing a title.

 

Bradford Martin

1 Month Ago

Yes an alert would be great. I have sometimes a hundred of a similar subject and 2 thousand images to manage. If AI can do do anything it sure should be able to do that.

 

Nikolyn McDonald

1 Month Ago

I wouldn't mind an alert, either . . . but I haven't found it a huge problem. I always do a title search on a critical word that I know I WANT to use and that allows me to see what I have already so I can give it a new twist.

 

Mark Yambor

1 Month Ago

I have gone back and forth between the poetic and the literal for the titles. I have just decided to go all in just describing what the photo shows to see if that helps to generate my first sale.

 
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K S

1 Month Ago

Gosh, maybe i should go retitle everything now. My Tittles usually have nothing to do with the art. ugh

 

Floyd Snyder

1 Month Ago

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The screaming you hear up and down the coast of California is me screaming after I saw that there was an auto-correct type in those titles.

It changed Big Sur to Big Sure.......


 

Rudi Prott

1 Month Ago

Was this done by Your loved Grammarly Floyd ?

 

Giovanni Allievi

1 Month Ago

I'm wondering what the impact on SEO would be of changing old titles (and hence the page URL) incorporating updated infos and words.

 

Gill Billington

1 Month Ago

If a title is changed you loose all previous links to that image and it’s ranking everywhere. It will be regarded as a new image.

 

Dan Carmichael

1 Month Ago

"Because of the FAA quirk where you should have unique titles for images, finding a unique title becomes quite a chore when one has thousands uploaded! "

Not really. Just add a date.

For example,
title: Sunset on the Beach
becomes: Sunset on the Beach 327
Unique. And the odds of uploading another Sunset on the Beach a year from now on the same date are horrendous.

FAA support (Abbie) once told me the title can be up to 10 words. I think holding it to 7 or 8 is a better idea.

 

Lindley Johnson

1 Month Ago

I have a file on my computer with all of my titles, it's not too difficult to come up with unique ones.

 
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K S

29 Days Ago

Thanks everyone, not changing a thing...

 

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